[Editor's Note: No sooner had I published my recent article of October 6, 2009 on Harry Abrams and his attempts to vilify me and RadicalPress.com by putting words in my mouth that weren't mine I learned from FreeDominion.com that co-owner Mark Fournier had made the decision to ban Harry for yet another alleged case of further lying and defamation and alteration of documents designed to make Marc Lemire appear to be an unsavory character.
The following thread from the FreeDominion.com forum will explain the details of why Mark Fournier took such drastic action against B'nai Brith Canada's B.C. representative for the League for Human Rights.]
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Posted: 10/ 06/ 09 1:09 pm
Mark Fournier writes:
Harry, Harry, Harry…You’ve been hanging around the CHRC for much too long and you’ve picked up some very nasty habits.
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I also found it amusing (as did others who have already pointed it out) that the document you used to “prove†Marc Lemire was the head of the Heritage Front from 2001 to 2005 actually reveals that there was no head of the organization during that time period. Yet somehow I expect you will continue to spread the same lie even though you clearly know it is a lie.
But this is just the comic relief stuff, you have some big and serious problems here, Harry.
Marc Lemire wrote:
… the simple fact is we have learned from our past and moved on to a more progressive organizational structure. The Heritage Front now is based on a committee of various people who oversee different duties within the HF. There is no one leader, but rather it is a democratic process where each person gets a vote.
Maikeru wrote:
Beyond satisfying the gap in presidency for the period, it also answers why Gerry Lincoln’s nose was out of joint in the article posted by our ARC buddies.
However, in light of that information, another question arises.
Mark Fournier writes:
There is an error in Maikeru’s post above and you are directly (and I believe knowingly) responsible for that error. There is no reason to believe Maikeru is yet aware that he has made a mistake but I’ll bet you can spot where he has it wrong, can’t you, Harry?
I’m aware that this discussion has taken place on a public internet discussion forum. This is not a real court of law where there would be immediate repercussions for what you’ve done here. Neither is it a CHRC hearing where you can lie and fiddle with evidence with impunity if you are the complainant. But don’t you think tampering with evidence, even just in an internet forum, is more than a little bit scummy? The optics are really bad for you with this one, Harry.
Below is an accurate reproduction of the opening of the post you have cited earlier on this thread as it appeared on Stormfront in 2002:
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The HERITAGE FRONT
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P.O. Box 564, Station “R”, Toronto, Ontario, M4G 4E1
Website: http://www.heritagefront.com
E-Mail: heritagefront@freedomsite.org
Heritage Hotline: (416) 693-2298
A Decade of Defiance
The Heritage Front in the new Millennium
Since our founding in the fall of 1989, the Heritage Front has been one of the most written about, talked about and even hated groups in Canada. Hundreds of thousands of words have been written about the HF. Countless hours of radio and television time has been devoted to reporting on us. Numerous government agencies have tried to silence us. Terrorist groups, criminals and unstable individuals have even targeted us.
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Now here is your reproduction of the same text as you posted it on Free Dominion.
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Harry Abrams wrote:
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=38867
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The HERITAGE FRONT
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P.O. Box 564, Station “R”, Toronto, Ontario, M4G 4E1
Website: http://www.heritagefront.com
E-Mail: heritagefront@freedomsite.org
Heritage Hotline: (416) 693-2298
A Decade of Defiance
The Heritage Front in the new Millennium
by Marc Lemire
Since our founding in the fall of 1989, the Heritage Front has been one of the most written about, talked about and even hated groups in Canada. Hundreds of thousands of words have been written about the HF. Countless hours of radio and television time has been devoted to reporting on us. Numerous government agencies have tried to silence us. Terrorist groups, criminals and unstable individuals have even targeted us.
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Compare the two closely, Harry. Can you spot the discrepancy that led directly to Maikeru’s error in his post? I missed it myself the first time through so I didn’t begin to suspect you had falsified the document until I scrolled to the bottom and saw this reference to the article in question:
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Reprinted from UpFront: FRONTLINE – Issue #20
The devil is in the details, Harry. You should have deleted this line when you were falsifying the beginning of the article. I might have entirely missed your tampering had you been smart enough to make the deletion of the actual source of the article. But I did notice. And then I noticed that, although Marc Lemire doesn’t have much writing to draw from, the writing style of the real author of the article did not seem like Marc Lemire’s writing style.
I knew I had you then, Harry, but I waited to confirm my suspicions. I emailed the link to Marc Lemire and straight out asked him if he had written it. I’ll bet you aren’t the least bit surprised that he had no problem admitting that he had reposted the article, but he flatly denied he had authored it.
So who has more credibility? Marc Lemire or Harry Abrams?
Well, Marc Lemire has spent the past six years under the thought police’s microscope at the Ministry of Love and no one has caught him in a lie yet. You, on the other hand Harry, are a known liar and now you have clearly shown that you will falsify a document to support your lies.
It isn’t like this is the first time you’ve consciously and knowingly attributed words to somebody that you knew weren’t his for the purpose of damaging the reputation of your target. You did the same thing on another thread here at Free Dominion when you put up some text prefaced with, “Arthur Topham says:” even though there is no way you could deny that you knew Arthur Topham hadn’t said the words you attributed to him because you knew the identity of the real author of those words before you posted them.
Marc Lemire’s CHRC case is over, Harry. The constitutionality of the process he went through is being appealed but the facts of the case are settled. Why are you spending so much time spreading lies and and taking the foolish risk of falsifying a document to continue the smear of Marc Lemire? Malice?
Or is this something you have been doing on behalf of the B’nai Brith? Do they know what you are doiing here? Do they know that you have lied and defamed Arthur Topham in this forum? The same Arthur Topham who you and B’nai Brith are harassing with a CHRC complaint? Do they know you have falsified a document in an attempt to publicly smear Marc Lemire even though his case is over?
Maybe you aren’t here at the behest of the B’nai Brith but it wouldn’t surprise me if you were. After all, the B’nai Brith, with their false identification of Lemire in a picture that they had up on their Nizkor website kind of indicates that they would completely approve of what you have been doing.
But now we come to the sad part, Harry.
It is with real regret, and against my wishes (and probably against the wishes of at least some FDers), that I must ban you, Harry. I have genuinely enjoyed your time here but I’m sure you’ll understand why so many of my advisors are ready to strangle me for letting you stay this long. I think some of them are on the verge of resorting to physical pain if I don’t listen to them so I am finally going to take their advice.
It has really been a fun game we’ve played, Harry, and I know that banning you at this time makes me look like the kind of jerk who wins a couple of big pots at the poker table and then gets up and leaves without giving anyone a chance to win their money back, but my aversion to physical pain compels me to do so.
You came here to cross-examine us for the benefit of your “friend and colleague†Richard Warman. While you were here you just couldn’t resist expanding your mission to smearing some of your political opponents with lies and evidence tampering, but your base reason for being here was always clear. Of course we knew all this and the risk to us was that we might slip up and say something Richard Warman could later use against us. I’m just a small town rube and not an expert at the thought crimes racket like you are, but I think we came through it intact. I may learn later that I’m wrong, but at this point I think we did OK.
The trade off for us was we would give you a soapbox and enough rope to ensure you didn’t make it to the ground when you fell off. I tend to think you have lost out on this exchange, Harry. You have given everyone a clear demonstration of how at least one B’nai Brith employee handles himself. You have lied, you have defamed, and you have falsified a document to further your ends. You have also demonstrated clearly how far the CHRC and its users and camp followers will go to smear a fellow Canadian in order to further your political agenda.
Part of the reason I have to ban you, Harry, goes beyond the reasons the people who have been advising me have already given to me. I also have to worry that you could get me into legal trouble of another kind. The world people like you and Richard Warman have been trying to build would hold me responsible for allowing you to defame people on a website I help to operate. I could be sued for allowing you to put a falsified document on Free Dominion. I can’t take that risk, Harry.
I don’t trust you.
It’s been fun, Harry. We are sure to meet again further along in the game. I look forward to it.
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“If it takes force to impose your ideas on your fellow man, there is something wrong with your ideas. If you are willing to use force to impose your ideas on your fellow man, there is something wrong with you.” – Entropy Squared
